Hoffenheim have endured their worst ever first half of a Bundesliga season no matter what the outcome of their home tie with Borussia Dortmund tomorrow, however Dortmund's first half of the season could also break a negative record.
The Westphalians are currently sitting in third place in the Bundesliga, but with just 27 points from their first 16 matches, another winless game would make it their worst first four months of a season since Jurgen Klopp took over as coach in 2009.
Twenty nine points was the lowest yield from the first 17 games of the season under Klopp, and that came in his first season in charge, 2008, which was also Hoffenheim's first year in the top flight when they led the Bundesliga at the turn of the year with 35 points.
``I get the feeling we have got to put something right in Hoffenheim,'' said Klopp. ``At the end of the day, we want to end the year as positively as we possibly can.''
Hoffenheim have even more to put right after such a dismal first half of the season which saw Markus Babbel sacked and replaced, at least until Christmas, by Frank Kramer.
Kramer was unable to stop the rot in his first game in charge, a 2-0 defeat in Hamburg last weekend, and tomorrow's fixture is likely to be his last in charge.
``The players are always being told to think of the next step and it would be fatal if the coach said that to the players, but excluded himself,'' he said.
``I have a great job as coach of the reserves and it is certainly very interesting to be able to coach in the Bundesliga.
``It's a privilege which only 18 coaches get. I prefer to concentrate on my work, trying to do the best possible and what happens next will just happen, or it won't.
``It's dependent on so many factors which cannot be influenced through my work. It's about the best for the club.
``I don't want to deal with that because I'm focusing all of my energy into preparing the team for Dortmund.''
That team will not include injured goalkeeper Tim Wiese or defender Chris, but Tobias Weis is an option again.
Sven Bender and Sebastian Kehl are both ruled out of Dortmund's last league game of the year, but they may return to face Hannover in the DFB-Pokal in midweek.