• FT

    Milan

    0

    Zenit

    1

  • FT

    Dortmund

    1

    Man City

    0

  • FT

    D Zagreb

    1

    Dynamo Kiev

    1

  • FT

    Malaga

    2

    Anderlecht

    2

  • FT

    Montpellier

    1

    Schalke 04

    1

  • FT

    Olympiakos

    2

    Arsenal

    1

  • FT

    PSG

    2

    FC Porto

    1

  • FT

    Real Madrid

    4

    Ajax

    1

UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Signal Iduna Park, Dortmund, Germany

Attendance: 62000

* Local time based on your geographic location.

Borussia Dortmund

  • Julian Schieber 57'

1 - 0

FT

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    @mattgoss1985 but the point stands, no? City have far better players.

  •  

    James Tyler: Bye!

  •  

    James Tyler: Twitter: @JamesTylerESPN, @rogbennett.

  •  

    James Tyler: Cheers to all! THE CHAAAAMPIONS (and Man City).

  •  

    James Tyler: Muddled. Just like Roberto Mancini's state of mind.

  •  

    [Comment from Chris]
    Last question.... shaken or stirred??

  •  

    James Tyler: What's crazier is that I have some Pappy in my cupboard. Right now. I might sniff it.

  •  

    [Comment from Gudg]
    I realize this is far delayed, but mad respect for JT comparing Pappy van Winkle to dinosaur eggs

  •  

    James Tyler: Until then, world. Thanks for all your comments, wit, questions and expertise. Without you, the Boot Room is just a scary shed.

  •  

    James Tyler: Indeed Rog, enjoy the fun. We'll be Boot Rooming tomorrow (Ravi's handling that magic) and we'll have some this weekend.

  •  

    James Tyler: 2.30pm ET. Chelsea vs. Nordsjaelland. Shakhtar vs. Juve. Plenty of fun. Unlike today's games, though I hope Rog & I did a fine job regardless.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Rock on JT

  •  

    James Tyler: Alright, we must shutter this madness. Join Ravi Ubha for the Boot Room tomorrow.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: There is a chance he could be gone in Jan

  •  

    [Comment from Lonewolf]
    Will Roberto lose his job as City Manager after failing to qualify for Europa League?

  •  

    James Tyler: Remember that players care little about the trophies; that's for fans and managers. If a player is well paid, they are generally happy. And if they're getting lots of playing time.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Stone Roses

  •  

    [Comment from Jim, Jersey]
    Beatles or Stones?

  •  

    James Tyler: Nope.

  •  

    [Comment from FC]
    Hulk, Hazard regretting new clubs?

  •  

    James Tyler: GROUP D: Dortmund 14, Real 11, Ajax 4, Man City 3.

  •  

    James Tyler: GROUP C: Malaga 12, Milan 8, Zenit 7, Anderlecht 5. Surprising, that.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: ABBA of course

  •  

    [Comment from Eli]
    favorite band?

  •  

    James Tyler: GROUP B: Schalke 12, Arsenal 10, Olympiacos 9, Montpellier 2

  •  

    James Tyler: GROUP A: PSG - 15, Porto - 13, Kiev 4, Zagreb 0

  •  

    [Comment from The 16th Minute]
    Will Chelsea fans care about me tomorrow?

  •  

    James Tyler: FINAL GROUPS for A-D:

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Follow us on twitter


    @rogbennett (kangaroo)

    @jamestylerespn (wombat)

  •  

    James Tyler: the one with Jar Jar Binks.

  •  

    [Comment from Chris]
    Favorite Star Wars movie??

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    Manchester City are yet to get beyond their first hurdle in any European Cup format - 1968-9, 2011-2, 2012-3.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Lucas is an amazing talent. if he cant stay healthy he will change liverpools season but... Joe Allen... mixed feeling for the $ price

  •  

    James Tyler: No. The Prem will destroy you.

  •  

    [Comment from Sneijder]
    Should I take my talent to the "Theater of Dreams"

  •  

    James Tyler: He'll sort out the midfield. Looked good vs. Southampton. Love Lucas Leiva.

  •  

    [Comment from rocks and sticks]
    how will Lucas Leiva effect Liverpool?

  •  

    [Comment from MUFC]
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Get use to it City. This weekend Manchester returns to red.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Fatburger

  •  

    [Comment from maverick]
    Dunkin Doughnuts or Starbucks?

  •  

    James Tyler: "Pauly Shore Must Die."

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Dana Plato

  •  

    [Comment from Zac]
    favorite american?

  •  

    [Comment from Tanto]
    Best Pauly Shore movie? (Hint: trick question)

  •  

    James Tyler: No. Think he's got 2 left. Though if he wins the league this year, Campbell, maybe he will go on a high note.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Yes Barry. But it is hard to take your eyes off it. A season of rubberneckng

  •  

    [Comment from Barry G.]
    Is this the worst top 4 in England in 20 years ?

  •  

    [Comment from Campbell]
    Will Sir Alex retire at the end of this season?

  •  

    James Tyler: Also, it was Dortmund's B squad. Several stars rested for most of the game.

  •  

    James Tyler: So. Arsenal loses, Man City loses, none of it really means anything. Now, all eyes on Rafa Benitez tomorrow.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Wu... credit where credit is due... Dortmund are outstanding but City looked like a team with no intention or hustle

  •  

    James Tyler: They're ace.

  •  

    [Comment from Wu]
    Let's talk about how awesome Dortmund is

  •  

    Roger Bennett: A big team will go down this season... not Arsenal but Sunderland or Villa fans...

  •  

    [Comment from HopefulJoe]
    Arsenal to be relegated?

  •  

    James Tyler: Yes -- in the Chinese Super League

  •  

    [Comment from Torres]
    Will I ever be good again?

  •  

    James Tyler: Indeed. #MoneyWellSpent. Worst points total for an English team in UCL history.

  •  

    [Comment from Zac]
    0-3-3 is absolutely pathetic.

  •  

    James Tyler: I'll say Real Madrid for the UCL.

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    @CredeSigno I could not forget that. Yes, Rovers actually won a game.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Tony Hibbert or Messi for Balon D'Or

  •  

    [Comment from messi ballon four]
    Who do you have for winning the UCL?

  •  

    James Tyler: Ronaldo. To keep it interesting, CFCfan.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: crazy talk

  •  

    [Comment from David]
    I'm going wombat

  •  

    Roger Bennett: me too

  •  

    [Comment from CFCfan]
    Who SHOULD win the Ballon d'or

  •  

    James Tyler: Over easy

  •  

    [Comment from Zac]
    how do you like your eggs?

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Cannot underline how shocking City's European campaign have had and how the stigma of failing to win a game will haunt Mancini

  •  

    James Tyler: No more European football for Manchester City this season. Didn't win a single group game.

  •  

    James Tyler: FT: Dortmund 1, Man City 0. THE PAIN IS OVER.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: crazytalk

  •  

    [Comment from aaron]
    koala bears, no question

  •  

    [Comment from ArsenalFanFive]
    Over the platypus Rog?

  •  

    Roger Bennett: In a fight anytime. Right Prison Mike?

  •  

    James Tyler: FT: Montpellier 1, Schalke 1

  •  

    James Tyler: FT: PSG 2, Porto 1

  •  

    James Tyler: FT: Real Madrid 4, Ajax 1

  •  

    James Tyler: Cory, I'd want two dinosaur eggs, over easy. A porterhouse steak the size of your head. Medium. Two bottles of Pappy van Winkle, 20 yr.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: City

  •  

    [Comment from JD]
    Odds of Pep on the sideline in EPL next season? Which side?

  •  

    Roger Bennett: A pie from Wigan

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Pele The Conqueror

  •  

    [Comment from Zac]
    favorite movie?

  •  

    [Comment from Cory]
    What would you want for your last meal?

  •  

    James Tyler: Messi.

  •  

    [Comment from rocks and sticks]
    JT who will win the ballon'dor

  •  

    Roger Bennett: define "Good"

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    @mattgoss1985 All the teams in 1995-1996 were national champions. Next....

  •  

    [Comment from ArsenalFanFive]
    Will Arsenal ever come good again?

  •  

    James Tyler: Balotelli whistled for a foul in the air. He's unhappy. I'm not surprised.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: They cant move him... unless they pay a lot of his wages... Eastern Grey Kangaroos

  •  

    [Comment from Misty]
    Does Torres stay at Chelsea?

  •  

    James Tyler: No, Mitroglou. Because when you are joined together by money, etc as opposed to growing up together, the allegiances are different.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Eastern Grey Kangaroos

  •  

    [Comment from Mitroglu]
    Is there a way to get City players to play for each other the way Dortmund do? What has to change?

  •  

    [Comment from Corey]
    Favorite Marsupial! Go!

  •  

    James Tyler: FT: Olympiakos 2, Arsenal 1. Not the result a floundering Wenger was looking for.

  •  

    James Tyler: GOAL -- Malaga 2, Anderlecht 2 -- Mbokani, 90"

  •  

    James Tyler: Considering the volume of work BR has to do at Anfield, I'm moderately pleased. Could be better, obviously, but in terms of imprinting a style and working on a shoestring budget, it could be worse.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: couple more minutes. ask JT and I ANYTHING now

  •  

    Roger Bennett: by "poach" JT means dream about like the old days

  •  

    [Comment from Sean R.]
    LFC can't poach

  •  

    [Comment from Zac]
    JT, how are you feeling at this point about how Rodgers has done for the season?

  •  

    James Tyler: 90th minute! Hup hup City. Cheer up. Still the FA Cup to focus on this season.

  •  

    James Tyler: Yeah, on a loan.

  •  

    [Comment from Jared]
    James, you guys got SAHIN what else could you want?

  •  

    James Tyler: (boooooo)

  •  

    [Comment from Spalding]
    This was their good material?

  •  

    James Tyler: Fabulous player, one I wish LFC could poach.

  •  

    [Comment from Sam R.]
    Callejon having a quite a season for RM and quietly at that, no?

  •  

    James Tyler: Never, Vic. A+ all the time, UNLIKE MAN CITY.

  •  

    [Comment from vic]
    as this game didn't have much meaning in the long run... You guys should have mailed it in, saved some of your good material for a Boot Room with a game that matters..

  •  

    Roger Bennett: I remember reading a Sports Illustrated article in the 80s about how Appleton was the best sports city to live in in America. Looked like a Richard Scarry book.

  •  

    [Comment from geoffrey]
    what's so special about appleton?

  •  

    [Comment from Johnny Blaze]
    Funny how all City fans want them out of Europe and United fan wanting them in

  •  

    James Tyler: SUB FOR DORTMUND: Oliver Kirch off, Bittencourt on.

  •  

    James Tyler: GOAL -- Real Madrid 4, Ajax 1 -- Callejon, 88"

  •  

    James Tyler: Aguero fouls Schmelzer in midfield.

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    Man City have put up a worse CL performance than a Blackburn team featuring Matty Holmes, Nicky Marker, Jeff Kenna and Batty v Le Saux #mcfc

  •  

    James Tyler: Well, he's waiting for the switch.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: That is the question. I say yes. They want progress in Champions League. That is where the global brand building really occurs... his career record in Europe does not exactly inspire confidence

  •  

    [Comment from messi ballon four]
    DO you think City can get rid of Mancini even if they win the EPL again?

  •  

    James Tyler: SUB FOR DORTMUND: Another young tyro to enter. Leonardo Bittencourt on...

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Note: I have never triggered more comments than by mentioning Appleton Wisconsin.

  •  

    James Tyler: Dortmund picking apart City's ambling rearguard. Only one goal to show for it, mind you.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: FIVE MINUTES TO GO. ON YOUR FEET AMERICA (and Harry In New Zealand)

  •  

    James Tyler: 86th minute. Lewandowski with another chance to score. Really a bizarre game, this.

  •  

    [Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
    Last days of Rome stuff from Mancini's squad. Quite something.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Tomorrow Brian. It is truly the most awful episode of all time. Dont miss it

  •  

    [Comment from Brian (GFOP)]
    Hey Toilet, will the new episode of MiB be out today?

  •  

    [Comment from JD]
    Man City Loud Speaker: Paging Possesion, has anyone seen Possesion?

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Internet is great. Prison Mike is really an ornithology loving librarian from Appleton Wisconsin.

  •  

    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Funny how that works when your name is, "Prison Mike."

  •  

    James Tyler: Another save for Hart but a more comfy one this time.

  •  

    [Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
    Only Man City player to put in any effort today: Joe Hart. And that's because it would have been conspicuous not to try.

  •  

    James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Flowing counter-attack but Lewandowski takes too many touches before shooting from close range. Hart blocks it superbly.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Why did he not hit that first time?

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Its Yours Prison Mike

  •  

    [Comment from Prison Mike]
    I call dibs on that Rog.

  •  

    James Tyler: Leitner with a hefty lofted shot. Miles over.

  •  

    [Comment from Trop_briefly via Twitter]
    City are trying to win this the way I would try to shake off a cold and go to school when I hadn't done my homework. "Oh no. What a shame."

  •  

    [Comment from TRC]
    You can't really fault Wenger though. At the time, Gervinho, Arshavin, and Chamakh were all tearing it up in their respective leagues (and some in the CL).

  •  

    [Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
    @freemaneric The slippiest.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Combo. United go behind and what happens? they always know how to win. Ferguson says he looks for players with skill, discipline who hate losing even more than he does

  •  

    [Comment from C. Greed]
    City and Chelsea show the same type of character when they go down goals... which begs the question "is it really the manager? or is it this bunch of overpaid hooligans that feel entitled to play when they want" ?

  •  

    James Tyler: 81st minute. Man City not in possession, bit like most of the game.

  •  

    [Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
    Europe, rather.

  •  

    [Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
    And now, a 10-minute requiem to Man City playing in Europa this season.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Lalas' moustache. def.

  •  

    [Comment from Tanto]
    Completely on topic: What is the first thing you'd loot in a post apocalyptic world?

  •  

    [Comment from JD]
    When you go from Henry, Bergkamp and Viera to Gervinho, Arshavin and Chamakh in less than 10 years, you know something is severely wrong. Unless, of course, 4th place is a trophy.

  •  

    [Comment from messi ballon four]
    Anybody see a trend in these scores....EPL teams all losing; LaLiga teams all winning

  •  

    [Comment from ESPNPressPass via Twitter]
    #presspasspoll Will this be Jose #Mourinho's last season at Real Madrid? Please click here to vote: twtpoll.com/b79y64

  •  

    Roger Bennett: If you own City, you would look for how City respond to going a goal down and you would notice that they really have not... which leads you to what conclusion about Mancini?

  •  

    James Tyler: Real 3, Ajax 1
    Dortmund 1, City 0
    Milan 0, Zenit 1
    Malaga 2, Anderlecht 1
    Olympiakos 2, Arsenal 1
    Montpellier 1, Schalke 1
    PSG 2, Porto 1
    Dinamo 0, Kiev 1

  •  

    James Tyler: SCORE UPDATES....

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Luis. Have you ever heard of google.com? 20 dec.

  •  

    [Comment from luis]
    James Tyler, would you please answer my question? when are they doing the drawing for the last 16?

  •  

    James Tyler: Would be insulting to offer so little, so I'll say yes. Fits Wenger's MO.

  •  

    [Comment from Rahul Oak]
    Is Wenger going to make a 1 million pound bid for Michu in Jan?

  •  

    James Tyler: Moments earlier, Leitner almost manager Dortmund's second.

  •  

    James Tyler: SUB FOR DORTMUND: Bieber Schieber off, Robert Lewandowski on for a 14-minute jog.

  •  

    James Tyler: That was it. A shooting star.

  •  

    [Comment from TRC]
    What exactly happened with Arshavin? Remember his four goals against Liverpool in that 4-4 classic his first season with Arsenal? I thought he would be a force to be reckoned with

  •  

    [Comment from Mike B]
    Camera shows Stan Kroenke in Arsenal owners box *said no soccer commentator ever

  •  

    James Tyler: Balotelli looks for a foul as Schmelzer tumbles him over. Ref has none of it.

  •  

    [Comment from Peter]
    random thought, does anyone else miss snoods? it doesn't feel like december fixtures without them

  •  

    James Tyler: Tough to argue with any of that. I'd also say a better CB partner for Vinny Kompany.

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    @YannTear when Steve Williams used to play for them?

  •  

    [Comment from Zac]
    City need a new manager, sell Nasri, get a new Mid, and either sell off Tevez/Dzeko/Balo

  •  

    James Tyler: Here's a man who knows:

  •  

    [Comment from Jim, Jersey]
    Arshavin's comments on the Fiscal Cliff....priceless

  •  

    [Comment from JD]
    Unfair question. Nettles.

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    At least Arsenal have their Champions League Round of 16 medals to fill their safes with.

  •  

    James Tyler: Arshavin pushes no-one forward, Archer. But he does do a mean Q&A on his personal web site.

  •  

    [Comment from Jim, Jersey]
    NETTLES!

  •  

    [Comment from Bohboh]
    I can't imagine Gerrard as a pundit. He's like Dustin Hoffman in Dick Tracy.

  •  

    [Comment from Archer]
    It's bizarre that Arsenal have gone from 1-0 to 1-2 since bringing on Arshavin for Rosicky. Really expected Arshavin to push them forward.

  •  

    James Tyler: Bubble burst in the Eredivisie, Mike. Budgets couldn't be sustained. Ajax sold a lot of its best talent.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Supporting Arsenal or having stinging nettles stuffed down your undies. Which would you prefer?

  •  

    [Comment from Mike B]
    So much is made of the Barca youth system and the new Man City operation, but what happened to Ajax that made them fall so far behind Europe's elite? They reached the heights of UCL in the 90s and looked poised to stay there

  •  

    [Comment from Charlie]
    OLYMPIAKOS GOAL! Mitroglu curled a stunner inside the far post, just minutes after entering the game!

  •  

    [Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
    Oh, Arsenal. You'll never win anything with kids. Alan Hansen was right!

  •  

    [Comment from gooner]
    wow. just. wow.

  •  

    James Tyler: GOAL -- Olympiakos 2, Arsenal 1 -- Mitroglou, 73"

  •  

    James Tyler: No. He will retire a Liverpool lad, enjoy his testimonial and spend his remaining days on a pundit's couch somewhere, Charles.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Abu Dhabi trying to use city to burnish their global brand. Going to Dortmund and getting parried by a German reserve side is not going to be well looked upon

  •  

    [Comment from MatthewStanger via Twitter]
    Dinamo Zagreb are on course for their 12th Champions League defeat in a row. Let's extend it to 64 teams.

  •  

    [Comment from Charles]
    Think Gerrard will make the move across the pond with Lamps next summer?

  •  

    James Tyler: Assuming that cupcakes are what landed you behind bars, Mike?

  •  

    [Comment from Prison Mike]
    CUPCAKES ARE DELICIOUS most times but other times maybe not.

  •  

    James Tyler: Dortmund all over City. Blaszczykowski again with room on the right, stodgily upended by Gaz Baz.

  •  

    [Comment from A-ron]
    the sequel to "my kid to paint that" is "my kid could coach (insert name for club here)"

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    @Chriskilley4 @JacobSteinberg stats can tell you plenty but do you really think he is as good as he was last season?

  •  

    James Tyler: Doing my job for me, I approve.

  •  

    [Comment from Ian (LFC)]
    THINGS HAPPENED BRIEFLY, but now they have stopped happening.

  •  

    [Comment from Charlie]
    CHANCE FOR OLYMPIAKOS! Machado with a diving header that had Szcenzy beat.....but it's JUST WIDE. Capital letters makes it more exciting

  •  

    James Tyler: Arsenal update...

  •  

    James Tyler: He's no Bob Ross, that's for sure.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Did you see the documentary, my kid could paint that?

  •  

    [Comment from Adam ,GFOP]
    Mancini is like a little kid painting... he just throws paint that the canvas and hope it turns out pretty.

  •  

    James Tyler: Nope. Amplifying his wages didn't hurt either. Shed not a single tear for him.

  •  

    [Comment from Ian (LFC)]
    Does Nasri regret being the 10th best player on his new team and winning the Prem over staying with "4th is 1st" Arsenal?

  •  

    James Tyler: Offside flag against Bieber Schieber.

  •  

    [Comment from pressgazette via Twitter]
    Journalist of the Year – David Walsh, The Sunday Times, claims a second prize #bja2012

  •  

    James Tyler: Yes. Always works so well when dusted off.

  •  

    [Comment from Guest]
    smart to move to a 3-5-2 for mancini...

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    @DavidWalshST well done, David. An inspiration to all in the trade.

  •  

    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Re: Balotelli Yellow Card. This is called the Jermaine Jones rule.

  •  

    James Tyler: To be fair, a soft, timid effort by Samir. But a right-back? In this situation? Guess it's all about staying healthy for Sunday.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: the Mayans know what it is

  •  

    [Comment from Rahul Oak]
    Wait, I just noticed something! Chamakh, Gervinho and Arshavin are on the pitch at the same time! There must be a name for an event like this ...

  •  

    James Tyler: SUB FOR MAN CITY: Nasri off, Pablo Zabaleta on. I don't understand Mancini at all.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Is that Sting holding the subs board?

  •  

    [Comment from Mike B]
    Can a labradoodle swing a golf club?

  •  

    James Tyler: City looking rather awful.

  •  

    James Tyler: Chance for City! Carlos Tevez does his whirlygig magic through a slew of Dortmunders but his shot is deflected out for a corner.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: I love watching Carlos Tevez. Such a manic labradoodle

  •  

    James Tyler: Reasonable Vegas line, JD. I'll take the over.

  •  

    [Comment from JD]
    Over/Under 8 Minutes - Yellow Card Balotelli

  •  

    James Tyler: Not exactly helping to endear him to the crowd, but there you go.

  •  

    [Comment from Shawn]
    Best. Rule. Ever. Rog.

  •  

    James Tyler: And Balotelli's in an agonized heap having collided with Kevin Grosskreutz.

  •  

    [Comment from CJ]
    OMG Sebastien Squillaci is SO GOOD *things nobody has ever said*

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Prison Mike. The line is yours. I have a rule about chat board arguments with people called "Prison" something

  •  

    [Comment from Prison Mike]
    Stole my line Rog. We're in a fight.

  •  

    James Tyler: No more than Dudu, Christian.

  •  

    [Comment from Christian]
    I hope I'm not pointing out the obvious here, but if the idea is to sell MLS to non-soccer watching Americans and expand the brand, tell me someone with the name "Kaka" won't just elicit chuckles and giggles from that same target market

  •  

    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    If these scores hold true, I'm 3/5 towards a hail mary parlay of mine, with Malaga, Dortmund and Madrid. I would only need Bayern and Barca tomorrow.

  •  

    [Comment from Denzel]
    Sad Arsenal comments make me feel better about myself

  •  

    James Tyler: SUB FOR MAN CITY: Edin "Super Sub" Dzeko off, Mario "Super Mario" Balotelli on.

  •  

    [Comment from Charlie]
    Why be sad? It's just going to lead to the greatest comments off all-time in the 88th minute: Chamakh goal!

  •  

    James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund: good surging run by Blaszczykowski in from the right, he finds Schieber in the middle who tees up Perisic. The winger can't keep his shot down from 25 yards though. City breathes anew.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Enter the Balo. A full 30 minutes to earn a red card. This game is still worth watching America (and that bloke in New Zealand)

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Sad is redundant

  •  

    Roger Bennett: THey are called Arsenal comments JT

  •  

    James Tyler: I love sad Arsenal comments.

  •  

    [Comment from gooner]
    facepalm.

  •  

    [Comment from Archer]
    Aaron Ramsey with a beautiful chest down for the oncoming Olympiakos player.

  •  

    [Comment from Charlie]
    CHANCE FOR OLYMPIAKOS! Machado puts a header to the far post and Szcezny barely gets there. BUT, it leads to GOAL FOR OLYMPIAKOS off the corner

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    Arsenal are not going to win their group. Time to get booking flights to Barcelona in February.

  •  

    [Comment from Andrew D.]
    Ezequiel "95 Acceleration on FIFA" Lavezzi scores for PSG. Ugly defending and dodgy goalkeeping.

  •  

    James Tyler: GOAL -- Olympiakos 1, Arsenal 1 - Maniatis, 61"

  •  

    James Tyler: GOAL -- Malaga 2, Anderlecht 1 -- Duda, 61"

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    Roger Bennett: Lescott is guaranteed one mental blip every 90 minutes

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    James Tyler: Scolari and Kaka are pals, but he still has to earn any kind of redemptive path back to the Selecao squad.

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    James Tyler: Because Kaka's trying to get in the Brazil mix for 2014. A move to MLS won't help him do that.

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    [Comment from Steevens]
    So why wouldn't Kaka's move be the same? A move for the fun of it and to be installed as Henry's opposite pole?

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    James Tyler: Embarrassing or hilarious?

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    [Comment from Mike R]
    What a train wreck for City. Embarrassing for the champions of England to be so meek on the European stage.

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    James Tyler: City corner amounts to nowt.

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    James Tyler: Half-chance for City: Felipe Santana cuts out a cross intended for Dzeko following sharp interplay by Tevez and Aguero.

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    James Tyler: Jim, he's French. It's illegal to smile there. Possibly.

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    James Tyler: Lavezzi's another big name that has struggled to acclimatize to French footy with the Parisian giants.

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    Roger Bennett: brilliant

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    [Comment from Jim, Jersey]
    Henry moved for the fun of it? If this is Henry having fun, I'd hate to see him miserable. I haven't seen a more disinterested figure on a football pitch since Michael Caine in Victory.

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- PSG 2, Porto 1 -- Ezequiel Lavezzi, 61"

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    James Tyler: Because Mourinho will coach United, apparently.

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    [Comment from Trillarvi]
    For the poll on Guardiola's next move, how is United not a choice? That being said, him at Red Bulls would be spectacularly hilarious

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    James Tyler: Corey? Taxi for Maicon, you're saying?

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    [Comment from John Denver]
    you guys can post something of mine you know? its ok

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    [Comment from Corey]
    Maicon's slow to get back there. He loves space so much, he might as well become an astronomer.

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    [Comment from Andrew]
    Europe is stupid anyways you guys. NO I'M NOT CRYING

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Montpellier 1, Schalke 1 -- Emmanuel Herrera, 59"

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    Roger Bennett: Henry treats MLS like Beckham did before achilles snap. Becks came back and knuckled down and infused his team with a will to win. Henry plays as if he is having a game on the beach and the score is irrelevant

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Real Madrid 3, Ajax 1 -- Derk Boerrigter, 60"

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    James Tyler: Chance for Schieber again but he can't chip Hart from the edge of the box. Hart catches it.

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    Roger Bennett: Cheeky cheeky

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    James Tyler: Henry had nothing to prove. Moved for the fun of it and to be installed as Beckham's opposite pole. Create a nice bi-coastal rivalry.

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    [Comment from Steevens]
    JT calling Thierry Henry fallow now? I like it.

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    [Comment from David]
    don't worry City, United are no Dortmund

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    James Tyler: Kompany just sort of watches it skid past for Schieber to convert. D'oh.

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    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Incredible placement on that pass, put it only where his striker could get to it.

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    James Tyler: The young striker with a fine finish. Wonderful, Bale-esque low cross from the right flank by Blaszczykowski fizzed across the six-yard box and Schieber taps it in. Simple, easy, lovely to look at.

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    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    Vincent Kompany is not what he was.

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    [Comment from Andrew D.]
    KUBA! Incredible cross.

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    Roger Bennett: As I said... if ever a goalkeeper and a defense needed a confidence builder ahead of big game... but what a ball

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    James Tyler: JULIAN "BIEBER" SCHIEBER

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    James Tyler: GOAL FOR DORTMUND

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    James Tyler: The nitrogen in City's air today. There, but inconspicuous.

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    [Comment from Trillarvi]
    For Christmas I'm getting a camouflage onesie

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    James Tyler: Scott Sinclair, take a bow. An utterly moribund performance.

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    James Tyler: SUB FOR MAN CITY: Scott Sinclair off, Sergio Aguero on

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    James Tyler: City flagged for offside.

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    [Comment from Mike]
    The new indie is doing things AFTER they're cool Rog

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Montpellier 0, Schalke 1 -- Howedes, 56"

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    [Comment from Spalding]
    Braintree pulls back one! The rally is on!

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    James Tyler: Needs more nuclear bacon references, Shawn.

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    [Comment from Shawn]
    Wasted chance from Olympiakos as Abdoun basically just kicks a low clearance out for an Arsenal goal kick.

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    James Tyler: Arsenal update...

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    Roger Bennett: For Christmas 2011?

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    [Comment from geoff]
    i'm asking for a Why Always Me? t-shirt for christmas. good choice?

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    James Tyler: Not really. Made sense then. Always good to be the first to do something. Beckham blazed the trail. Kaka would look fallow in following a path already taken.

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    [Comment from Steevens]
    JT: I might venture a guess that was your opinion about Becks in 2007 too???

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    James Tyler: Yes. Milan J. The Joe Cole of his day.

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    [Comment from columbia, sc]
    is that the same jovanovic whom i despised while he got PAID at Liverpool?

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    James Tyler: Corner for BvB taken short. Worked infield. Leitner finds Grosskreutz inside the box and the midfielder whips a nasty low shot to the near post. Another superb save by Hart.

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    Roger Bennett: Great save there by Hart. he would not have seen much of that and it was low...

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    James Tyler: Chance for City! Perisic umarked at the back post from a deep right wing cross, dips his shoulder and executes a wonderful, tricky full volley on target. Hart touches it over.

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    Roger Bennett: Gooch has been fine without dazzling, word has it

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    James Tyler: Yes.

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    [Comment from Jurgen]
    Is Gooch playing for Malaga today?

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    James Tyler: No way is Kaka moving to MLS. I just don't see that at all. Lampard much more likely. Is pals with some of the AEG braintrust. Easier sell, cheaper too. Not unreasonable of Tim Leiweke to reach for Kaka though.

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    [Comment from Biggie]
    JT or Woger -- Who is a better fit to replace Becks in LA, Lamps or Kaka, or someone else entirely?

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    [Comment from Shawn]
    Anderlecht have their deserved goal against Malaga, though they'll feel upset they aren't ahead. 1-1.

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Malaga 1, Anderlecht 1 -- Jovanovic, 51"

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    James Tyler: HT: Dinamo 0, Dynamo 1

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    Roger Bennett: Like Beckham he is a walking billboard for endorsements and a player whose massive personal following is as lucrative as his skills on the field

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    James Tyler: "What could have been," an intoxicating eau de cologne remembering wasted, injury-ridden seasons.

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    [Comment from Mike]
    I'm sorry, what's Kaka's brand?

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    James Tyler: Blaming the refs? Not wise, Wren. I thought law school honed ones arguments! (Kidding.)

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    Roger Bennett: Does Mancini wear eyeliner or does he just have dark eyes?

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    [Comment from Wren]
    @James: the referees didn't really help City all that much.

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    James Tyler: Yes. Ex-LFC/Norwich lad Jon Otsemobor's backheel was a stylish heartbreaker, Stretch. Wonderful atmosphere.

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    Roger Bennett: High... great for his brand. great for MLS

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    [Comment from Steevens]
    Kaka to MLS? What odds do you give that move?

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    [Comment from Stretch]
    Anybody watch the "Dons Derby" this weekend?

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    James Tyler: Indeed, Rog. Whipped into the "Corridor of Uncertainty." Or, simply, "The Mixer."

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    James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Angled free kick to the back post finds Mats Hummels open but the defender can't get a strong-enough touch to direct it on target!

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    Roger Bennett: Great ball... one of those where the keeper does not know whether to come out or stay pinned on the line...

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    James Tyler: Truly amazing that City couldn't solve Ajax. One of the season's enduring enigmas.

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Real Madrid 3, Ajax 0 -- Kaka, 49"

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    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Law school is likely more entertaining than this match thus far.

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    James Tyler: Nasri hacks down Blaszczykowski to welcome him to the game. Welcome, Kuba!

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    [Comment from Wren]
    I'm actually participating in this chat while doing a law school final in jurisprudence. Good idea?

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    James Tyler: Long ball into the Dortmund box is shepherded back to Weidenfeller. Scott Sinclair was vaguely lurking.

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    Roger Bennett: This game is making a job that feels like a hobby feel like a job

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    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Dzeko won't score because he wasn't substituted in to the game.

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    James Tyler: A. you spelled it wrong! B. Professionals do not use copy-paste. I TYPE THIS LIVE.

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    [Comment from Andrew]
    Highlight Blaaszczykowski, press ctrl+c, win

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    Roger Bennett: Predictions? Dzeko to score the only goal of the game with a bobble off his shin

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Dinamo Zagreb 0, Dynamo KIev 1 -- Yarmolenko, 45"

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    [Comment from Bohboh]
    I like Felix Magath because he has a funny face

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    James Tyler: We're off again in Dortmund!

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    James Tyler: He would, Jim. (Swoons, stares dreamily into the middle distance)

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    Roger Bennett: THanks for coming anyway Wren.

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    [Comment from Wren]
    Roger, um....no, not really. America is looking forward to Thursday Night Football.

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    [Comment from Jim, Jersey]
    Wouldn't Llorente be a perfect fit at Anfield?

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    [Comment from Harry]
    im from New Zealand

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    James Tyler: SUB FOR ARSENAL: Tomas Rosicky off, Andrei Arshavin on.

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    [Comment from Matt K]
    (yawn)

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    Roger Bennett: PIA PIA PIA

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    [Comment from Tanto]
    JUPP JUPP JUPP!

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    Roger Bennett: LETS DO IT-- second half time... are you EXCITED America?

  •  

    James Tyler: Love Zdenek Zeman at Roma.

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    James Tyler: Assuming that's a simple "don't tire 'em both out but keep them in game shape"

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    Roger Bennett: Pia Sundhage

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    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Who's your guys' favorite managers today? I'm really quite fond of Jurgen Klopp.

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    James Tyler: SUB FOR DORTMUND: Marco Reus off, Jakub Blaszczykowski on. And my fingers preemptively ache.

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    James Tyler: You're dreaming.

  •  

    [Comment from Joshua King]
    strootman or wanyama to united

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    James Tyler: Assuming you meant to type WORST.

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    [Comment from Casey]
    Transfer Time is the happiest time of the year!

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    James Tyler: Stop it. But yeah, that's one sure to infuriate the masses by New Year's Day.

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    [Comment from ty]
    huntelaar to arsenal!

  •  

    James Tyler: That said, Fernando Amorebieta and Fernando Llorente have both declared they won't re-sign with Athletic Bilbao. So will the club ship them in midseason to ensure that neither leaves for free in the summer?

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    James Tyler: None yet, and I'm happy. Another week and we'll all be sick of the transfer window before it even opens.

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    [Comment from MD]
    Any good January transfer rumors?

  •  

    James Tyler: I think he'll stay eventually. He won't get minutes at City though the money will be better.

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    [Comment from Kris]
    Will Sterling be a Liverpool at the end of January? August?

  •  

    [Comment from Cory]
    If I was an Arsenal fan I would be depressed when your manager says CL qualification is like a trophy and that's his aim...

  •  

    James Tyler: Dortmund-Man City. Just kidding -- Zagreb v. Kiev. Still 0-0, 41 minutes.

  •  

    [Comment from Guest]
    which of the games is the one being played in snow JT?

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    Roger Bennett: Follow us on twitter

    @rogbennett (waving large flag behind goal)

    @jamestylerespn (having his view blocked by aforementioned large flag)

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    [Comment from Rahul Oak]
    You heard it here first: Pep to coach Spain.

  •  

    [Comment from Shelton]
    Why the heck are Arsenal fans depressed? As a Gooner, I'm pretty used to mediocrity.

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    [Comment from Robert]
    For all the bile thrown City's way so far, they've only given up 11 league goals, which is the best record and less than a goal a game. The real issue is how much less they're scoring. I blame Mancini's curious decision to play Toure so far back this year. It's like he learned nothing from the way Toure dominated the upper middle late in games last season.

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    Roger Bennett: That is the contradictory nature of the EPL right now... United and City both appear mediocre yet, they are first and second in the table and pulling clear

  •  

    [Comment from Salisbury City FC]
    Do the defending league champs REALLY have reason to be depressed?

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    Roger Bennett: I agree... all the squads are incomplete. Managers have become more central to the narrative than ever

  •  

    [Comment from Bohboh]
    EPL is in a strange place right now. No team feels like they're settled and confident.

  •  

    James Tyler: Manchester Derby: MILNER VERSUS CARRICK. BATTLE OF THE BLANDS.

  •  

    [Comment from Sasha]
    Prediction for Manchester derby: Sir Alex parks the bus, just like he tried to do last year. Carrick and Fletcher in the middle, along with maybe Scholes.

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    Roger Bennett: I always answer Liverpool whatever the question JT...

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    [Comment from Conor]
    As a City fan, I just feel bland about this year's time. No drive or desire.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: why?

  •  

    [Comment from Stretch]
    United fan here. Terrified of this weekend's derby.

  •  

    [Comment from Jim]
    Name the baby Big Sam

  •  

    James Tyler: That child will halt the fiscal cliff, cure world hunger AND fix Chelsea's midfield.

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    Roger Bennett: are there any City fans following along? would love to know how you are feeling ahead of the weekend's game. Both teams seem like works in progress. and by works in progress, i mean super dodgy. Yet they are one and two in the table...

  •  

    James Tyler: Considering that child is the savior, quite a bit. There will be commemorative plates.

  •  

    [Comment from Grace]
    ? for people of the United Kingdom, how much importance do you put to a royal baby?

  •  

    James Tyler: I know, right RK? IT'S JUST NOT CRICKET.

  •  

    [Comment from RK]
    Amazing......a quarter billion dollar team CANNOT score even ONE goal against a team whose payroll is probably less than 1/5th

  •  

    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Can we name the royal baby Ole Gunnar, regardless of gender?

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    Roger Bennett: awful name. they can do better. Nigel rocks.

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    [Comment from trevgunner]
    Roger is a British name just saying

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    [Comment from yaya]
    definitely name him Heskey

  •  

    Roger Bennett: With a little eagle tattooed on its neck at birth

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    [Comment from Jim, Jersey]
    Royal Baby Name: Beckham. Bonus points if the little tyke looks like Becks too!

  •  

    [Comment from Dan W]
    I would name the royal baby Akeem, like in 'Coming to America'

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    James Tyler: Doubtful, Spalding.

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    [Comment from GB]
    Sir Alex

  •  

    [Comment from Spalding]
    Do you think Braintree can rally from down 0-2 in its FA Cup match againt Havant and Waterlooville FC?

  •  

    James Tyler: No.

  •  

    [Comment from JTPhila]
    Question 1: Is Man City throwing this game to escape the joke that is the Europa League knockout stage?

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    James Tyler: HT: Malaga 1, Anderlecht 0

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    James Tyler: Cheers, Paul G!

  •  

    [Comment from Paul G]
    I'm not above shameless plugs... Here's the article... http://theclassical.org/articles/the-new-germans

  •  

    [Comment from Shawn]
    Shortly after a controversial goal is disallowed for Anderlecht. Exciting stuff happening just before halftime... exciting stuff.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Question for half time. If you were to be allowed to name the royal baby, what would you call it? Landon? Clint? Mix? Hope? Jon Obi?

  •  

    James Tyler: Let's see. Can't fit a debate on moneyball into a poll question.

  •  

    James Tyler: We can do a poll. But what should it be about....

  •  

    [Comment from Que]
    No poll today? Boring-est game? Certain-est to go out at group stage? Worst-est manager?

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    James Tyler: HT: Milan 0, Zenit 1

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    James Tyler: HT: Real Madrid 2, Ajax 0

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    James Tyler: I wrote a piece about that for The Classical back in November of last year. Google if you care, folks.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Referee adds no extra time. merciful gent. City muster one shot on goal... tough stuff on the eye

  •  

    [Comment from Guest]
    Dortmund can do that because the way youth systems are managed by the German FA is much different than in most countries. Exactly why the German national team can stay competitive every tournament.

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    James Tyler: HT: Borussia Dortmund 0, Manchester City 0.

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Malaga 1, Anderlecht 0 -- Duda, 45"

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    James Tyler: HT: Olympiakos 0, Arsenal 1

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    James Tyler: Ajax, Dortmund, Barcelona all very youth-y and a power/success (of varying degrees and definitions) that was derived in-house.

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    [Comment from D]
    Has any club really proven that a youth system is the way to go? United had a crop of youngsters who were great, but they haven't recreated that recently - Barca have had the same but who is to say that this group isn't just an outstanding vintage but nothing more then a blip?

  •  

    James Tyler: Fact: more goals scored in the Football League Trophy so far tonight.

  •  

    [Comment from RK]
    Tuesday afternoon snoozefest !!!. Total of 4 goals in all games combined.....gee !!!

  •  

    James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund: Ivan Perisic bends one on target from 25 yards but Hart's equal to it.

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    James Tyler: Marco Reus is having plenty of success angling infield without Nastasic following along.

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    James Tyler: It's not reloading, JTPhila, if you plan it out that way. I'll actually be writing something on this as several clubs seem to do well at "reloading" despite being poached every year. Yet they all do it in different ways.

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    [Comment from JTPhila]
    JT, why is it that a squad like Borussia Dortmund can consistently reload with players from its youth system when economics require it to sell off a Kagawa or Sahin and Arsenal, which touts player development as its strength, cannot do the same

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    James Tyler: 42 minutes gone in Dortmund. Still 0-0 between the German champs and the English champs.

  •  

    James Tyler: Modern football is rubbish. Not really. But it can be sometimes.

  •  

    [Comment from every club owner]
    what's fiscal responsibility?

  •  

    [Comment from Brain]
    Why do billionaires care about trophies before profits? Because that's what the fans care about.

  •  

    [Comment from Matt K]
    Poulsen off injured for Ajax.

  •  

    [Comment from RobE]
    Aside from the assist, Gervinho has been terrible this game. Rosicky though looks like he's rounding back into form.

  •  

    James Tyler: Your question might finally break this Boot Room. Look for Rog and me to write a 10-part series on this very existential dilemma at the core of modern football.

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    Roger Bennett: The most impressive performance of this first half? The Dortmund fans behind the goal waving the giant flag non-stop. What upper body strength

  •  

    [Comment from Andrew]
    Has anyone in the Premier League really demonstrated that focusing on growing players within your academy is a route to success (United in the late 90's non-withstanding)? Is there a model to be pursued in today's Premier league, full of money losing billionaires (or money making billionaires in some cases) that don't care about fiscal responsibility but only trophies?

  •  

    [Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
    Lovely. RT @footymac: Great assist by my hero Gervinho

  •  

    [Comment from Rahul Oak]
    I don't know what's more astonishing. Gervinho getting the assist of Rosicky scoring the goal.

  •  

    [Comment from FLGooner]
    GOAL ROSICKY. Sublime finish from the center of the box following a great cutback from Gervinho. Wow. Love having this guy back!!

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    James Tyler: The Dortmund-City game opening up a bit. Took a while, but like a venus fly trap it's ready to snare us with its nectar.

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    James Tyler: AND GERVINHO GOT THE ASSIST.

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Olympiacos 0, Arsenal 1 -- Rosicky, 38"

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    Roger Bennett: In Argentina they call Messi "El Catalan"

  •  

    James Tyler: Chance for City: Tevez forces a fine save from Weidenfeller but is offside when the cross from the right is played in.

  •  

    James Tyler: Irrelevant. Messi would be "homegrown" though bear in mind this is a technical squad issue and not a national team concern.

  •  

    [Comment from KT]
    Does that make Messi homegrown or Argentinian?

  •  

    James Tyler: No, I think it still works. If the club in that country spends that much time/energy invested in the player, assimilating and teaching them, etc, I think it makes sense.

  •  

    [Comment from Jer Bear]
    the term "home grown" becomes a bit diluted with that reasoning (3 years before 21), don't you think JT?

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    James Tyler: Dortmund corner...

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    James Tyler: Chance for Dortmund! Marco Reus unleashes having cut sharply in from the right flank. Nastasic barely tracks the run. Low show forces a fine sprawling stop from Hart at his near post.

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    Roger Bennett: Did well there Joe Hart...

  •  

    James Tyler: Thanks. Three seasons prior to turning 21.

  •  

    [Comment from Guest]
    21 James

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    James Tyler: Don't have time to look it up exactly but there's some weird addendum like that beyond simply being born in the country.

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    James Tyler: Also of note: overseas players can be considered "homegrown" if they play I think 3 years in that country prior to turning 18. I think.

  •  

    James Tyler: Arsenal, obviously. Which plays into my point

  •  

    [Comment from Rahul Oak]
    While we are in the middle of this youth discussion, whom do you think deserves more credit for Cesc Fabregas? The Barca youth academy or a certain French gentleman who wears an oversized jacket and coaches Arsenal?

  •  

    James Tyler: GOAL -- Milan 0, Zenit 1 -- Danny, 35"

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Little money in Europa League... the finances are shocking

  •  

    James Tyler: Yes, I meant 1-1. Well spotted.

  •  

    [Comment from David]
    Thiago Silva with a thumping header to give PSG the lead over Porto and now 1st place position

  •  

    [Comment from TevezNation]
    City needs to qualify for the Europa League from a FFP standpoint. Can't keep posting massive losses.

  •  

    James Tyler: The Milan goal, for anyone wondering:

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    James Tyler: Decent cross by Scott Sinclair but nodded away. Long ball in for Dzeko is met by Weidenfeller.

  •  

    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    @JamesHorncastle Just as I switch over to see Chamakh lose the ball.

  •  

    James Tyler: GOAL -- PSG 1, Porto 0 -- Jackson Martinez, 33"

  •  

    Roger Bennett: no. But not qualifying for the CL is a massive black eye for his regime and his reputation as a European bottler

  •  

    [Comment from Oli]
    Does Mancini really want to play Europa League or is he focusing on the BPL?

  •  

    James Tyler: Cleared.

  •  

    James Tyler: Corner for City.

  •  

    James Tyler: Chance for City! Dzeko cracks one from 25 yards. Bends nastily at the last second but a fine save by Weidenfeller.

  •  

    James Tyler: Fact is, Jon, few clubs have a player from 10 years old. Some do but it's not the norm. Does LFC take credit for Shelvey having bought him as a teen and worked him up?

  •  

    Roger Bennett: What is odd about this season's premier league is how few teams have made a real fist of consistent good football. It is as open as i have seen it since the 80s in terms of positions 3 and 4. Spurs with Dembele look solid but...

  •  

    [Comment from Zach]
    Do you think Everton has a legit chance at Champions League football next year>

  •  

    [Comment from Jon]
    Most of City's HG youth products are elsewhere now (Sturridge, Onouha, SWP, etc.). Lots of talented imports waiting in the wings.. but three HG youths are on the bench today against Dortmund.

  •  

    James Tyler: Nonsense, Sasha. Would love it but I think FSG has already battened down the hatches for the transfer window. LFC on a shoestring budget until the summer.

  •  

    [Comment from Sasha]
    James, what do you think about Liverpool signing Keisuke Honda in January?

  •  

    [Comment from C. Greed]
    I'm embarrassed to be a Chelsea fan. The owner has turned the team into a circus, but the players are to blame as well. They have shown no grit, no fight, and no leadership during this skid. The 2nd half of the WHU v CFC game literally made me sick.

  •  

    [Comment from JamesTylerESPN via Twitter]
    Meaning of life-level question. RT @footymac: Gervinho. Why?

  •  

    Roger Bennett: yes. mine too. we just recorded this week's show. Some good Fellaini stuff in there, i promise.

  •  

    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Rog, the episode of the pod when you relayed the story of your boy crying because he doesn't want Fellaini to leave brought a tear to my eye.

  •  

    James Tyler: GOAL -- PSG 1, Porto 0 -- Thiago Silva, 29"

  •  

    James Tyler: This game's been a real snooze. Hope we're making up for that a touch. All games in the CL have underwhelmed thus far.

  •  

    James Tyler: Free kick whipped in sharply but caught by Hart.

  •  

    James Tyler: No -- Hart was bought from League One for 1 million pounds.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: yes. US. i meant competitive football

  •  

    [Comment from Jer Bear]
    I'm assuming you're talking about Altidore's touch when wearing the USA shirt, not his AZ shirt...

  •  

    [Comment from Cory]
    Didn't Joe Hart and Micah Richards come through the youth ranks at City?

  •  

    James Tyler: YELLOW CARD: Javi Garcia implies Ivan Perisic to the turf down the left flank. Softest of fouls, really. I thought anyway.

  •  

    James Tyler: Dinamo v. Dynamo is back on! Field lines have been painted bright colors, ball is ready etc.

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    [Comment from JohnBrewinESPN via Twitter]
    @iainmacintosh Jernande Meade was William the Conqueror's favourite tipple.

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    James Tyler: I'd love another striker. And a proper midfielder. Heck, just a quality player or two that can shave and/or rent a car.

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Real Madrid 2, Ajax 0 -- Callejon, 28"

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    Roger Bennett: Marouane Fellaini staying at Everton

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    [Comment from Brain]
    James and Roger, what is on the top of your Christmas want lists this year?

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    James Tyler: Steak, bacon, cats and nuclear meltdowns. Shawn knows how to get his comment published.

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    Roger Bennett: Even their biggest critics have to admire the strategic way their new owners have gone about building a true footballing infrastructure

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    [Comment from Javier de la Cruz]
    OMG a compliment for City??!!!

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    [Comment from Shawn]
    Oh goodness me! Malaga owe a nice steak dinner to Kameni. That's twice now he's saved their bacon with radioactive cat-like reflexes.

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    James Tyler: Malaga update...

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    James Tyler: The cold hard rational hand of truth. Though my mate's milkman's friend's uncle's taxi driver saw Pep at the Etihad yesterday.

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    [Comment from Jon]
    Roger: And yet we as fans constantly hear people saying, "Oh wait until they get bored and leave you." Nothing about the past few years has indicated that is a likely possibility.

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    Roger Bennett: Just been set up... wont see the fruit of it for a while...

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    [Comment from Jer Bear]
    Rog, but who's really graduated from City's youth system and been successful?

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    [Comment from Gabi L.]
    Rog/JT, I like how confident you both sound but the truth is neither of you know what Pep is thinking or are privileged to such info. Truth is, we will all find out at the same time.

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    Roger Bennett: Dzeko's first touch could only be described as "Altidore-esque" tonight

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    James Tyler: Half-chance for Dortmund. Good interplay with Reus and Perisic but Schieber's glancing header was smothered by Hart. Off-target anyway.

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    James Tyler: Snow. Tons and tons of snow.

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    [Comment from Frank]
    What happened in Kiev that they suspended the match?

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    James Tyler: Almost as if Abramovich went down one road halfway and turned back around.

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    James Tyler: Have to disagree a touch there, Rog. Chelsea tried to build that. Frank Arnesen constructed an impressive academy system stocked with talent. Problem is most of it ended up elsewhere or didn't pan out: Di Santo, Bruma, Mancienne, Tore, etc

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    Roger Bennett: One thing about City that is impressive is that in contrast to Roman, the owners have built a real football infrastructure, a strategic operation, and built up their youth system... amazing

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    [Comment from Shawn]
    Sczesnzzcnzynzcy with a great save to keep Arsenal level with Olympiakos.

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    James Tyler: Arsenal update...

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    James Tyler: Half-chance for City! Low cross by Dzeko across the six-yard box is there for Tevez but again Schmelzer tidies up. City corner floated in by Nasri but cleared.

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    James Tyler: To be honest, you want to hear your players and manager saying that. Because maybe then the players start believing it.

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    Roger Bennett: Hard not to see what has been assembled at City in terms of Barca's former back office and imagine that Pep wont be there soon...

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    James Tyler: Must be the pain meds from rehab still lingering. Rodgers has said similar too. Only 7 points back!

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    [Comment from L. Moe]
    What do you think of Lucas Leiva's comment of LFC seeking a 4th place this season?

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    James Tyler: Throw-in for Dortmund deep in City territory. Doesn't amount to anything.

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    James Tyler: Fabio Coentrao's done for Madrid. Muscle pull.

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    Roger Bennett: There is not a chance of that happening. Guardiola is a man who needs control. At Chelsea, managers do not have that luxury.

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    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    Do either of you think Guardiola actually comes to Stamford Bridge next season? I would have to think he's way too smart to put himself in to that situation with Abramovich.

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    James Tyler: Rafa. Finishing fourth's tougher than avoiding relegation.

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    [Comment from Andy]
    who has a harder job at the moment, Rafa or Redknapp

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    James Tyler: I don't believe Pep Guardiola is insane enough to take that gig. But that's just me.

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    [Comment from Danny]
    Rafa is a bench warmer until Roman can pry Pep out of New York.

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    James Tyler: As many goals have been scored in Plymouth-Oxford as have been tallied in Europe's top competition.

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    James Tyler: Just the one goal in CL play so far, Ronaldo's artful opener vs. Ajax.

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    James Tyler: Milner's like jazz. It's about the stuff he doesn't do.

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    Roger Bennett: PERFECT ANALOGY POG

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    [Comment from Pog]
    Besides, viewership analytics tell us that the American sports obsession with toilers who "play the game right" will make James Milner a hit in this country. He's like the David Eckstein of the Premiership.

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    James Tyler: No, Peter. Because the nasty media won't let it. It could have been Redknapp! Or Sven Goran Eriksson! Yet the juju is so negative that I would be surprised if it ever fades. That said, no better antidote to the Stamford Bridge rancor than a string of wins.

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    Roger Bennett: No... he has been set up to be a fall guy. A patsy. He is doomed to fail.

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    [Comment from Peter]
    JT can we take a minute to talk about Chelsea, do you think the Rafa era ever settles in?

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    [Comment from chicagooner]
    Oh dear. Ramsey whiffs from about 8 yards out after Chamakh's downwards header falls into his path.

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    James Tyler: Arsenal update...

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    James Tyler: Does feel weird, doesn't it? Maybe the madness was part of the winning formula.

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    [Comment from Harry]
    Why are Tevez and Balotelli so well-behaved these days? What's up with that?

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    James Tyler: Dortmund's playing a lot of long balls thus far. Whether that's for sport or because the usual suspects -- Kuba, Lewandowski, Gotze -- are taking a break remains to be seen.

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    James Tyler: Maverick, we must have broadest appeal. Both games in that group will get their due.

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    [Comment from Brain]
    This City/Dortmund match is more boring than working...

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    James Tyler: At least 20.

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    Roger Bennett: yes. there is a chat called the Gucci Loafer room with Joe Dolce where they are covering that game

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    [Comment from maverick]
    Is the Boot Room geared towards British teams only? Clearly the Juve Shaktar is the better match

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    [Comment from Jared]
    How many creative signs will be on display at the Bridge tomorrow?

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    James Tyler: Whoops. There you go. Might as well watch paint dry.

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    [Comment from Eric]
    Dortmund won head-to-head with RM. Already won the group.

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    James Tyler: Half-chance for City as Tevez's angled infield run is well-spotted by Nasri. Tidied up by Schmelzer.

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    James Tyler: The others will be sides.

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    James Tyler: It's Chelsea. Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea. Mainly to see if Rafa Benitez survives.

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    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    What game do we get for coverage tomorrow, JT? Juve/Shakhtar I'm assuming with a side of Chelsea?

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    [Comment from Ian (LFC)]
    Is it wrong that I have a soft spot in my heart for Crystal Palace because it's the first club I played for in FIFA 13 Career Mode?...

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    James Tyler: You wouldn't know it by the fairly mellifluous, meandering opening 15 in Germany, mind.

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    James Tyler: There is the matter of top spot up for grabs tonight. Dortmund leads Real Madrid by one point for first place.

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    James Tyler: HT: Plymouth Argyle 1, Oxford United 0

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    Roger Bennett: Looked a bit like Kyle Beckerman right?

  •  

    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    The Today show here in the states did a creepy mock up of what William and Kate's child would look like using CGI. Very eerie.

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    James Tyler: E) A rousing hymnal.

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    [Comment from Tanto]
    Would you consider the Champions song to be A) a song, B) a ditty, C) a number, or D) a lullaby?

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    James Tyler: Passion's very easily quantified, Dortmund Fan. There's a science to football commentary. Not just empty bluster, you know.

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    [Comment from Dortmund Fan]
    Am I really more passionate than City fans or was that just typical German arrogance speaking?

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    Roger Bennett: Stop the clock. Martin Tyler reference the royal baby at 13.02 minutes

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    [Comment from Andrew D.]
    Goal Ronaldo! Benzema slips behind the defense, slides across goal to Ronaldo who has entire net to shoot at.

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    James Tyler: Will do wonders for his Ballon D'Or runner up accolade, that.

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    Roger Bennett: City fans eager to see their team score a European goal of quality -- here's a feast for your eyes. Kazimierz Deyna with a cracker
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w90QBOI-kzs

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    James Tyler: GOAL -- Real Madrid 1, Ajax 0 -- Cristiano Ronaldo, 13"

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    [Comment from Bohboh]
    Di Matteo was probably fired mid-match against Juventus, he just didn't know it yet

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    James Tyler: ALERT: Dinamo Zagreb vs. Dynamo Kiev has been suspended because it's snowing.

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    James Tyler: Joe Hart has to make a save! Kirch gets forward from right back and has a crack. Well struck but right at the England goalie.

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    James Tyler: No. None. Group's decided.

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    [Comment from Sanchini]
    Is there a chance that Real Madrid gets sent to Europa League?

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    James Tyler: Good question, not one I know the answer to.

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    [Comment from Steve]
    Has a team ever fired a manager during a match? Rafa has to be one of the worst hires of all time.

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    James Tyler: Hang about! Edin Dzeko is through after a slick pass by Carlos Tevez but the Bosnian lad's offside. Shame.

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    James Tyler: 10 minutes gone and absolutely nothing of note in the Borussia-City game. (plays the Champions League song)

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    James Tyler: To get form? I'd argue he's been Arsenal's third-best CB this season, Brian.

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    [Comment from Christian]
    City, for all of its attacking talent and the midfield skills of Nasri and Silva, always struck me last year as preferring to play catenaccio followed by quick counters. Teams seem to be forcing them to play from buildup this year, especially in UCL, causing tons of frustration

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    [Comment from Brian]
    Any clue why Vermaelen is starting with the reserve team?

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    James Tyler: I suppose. That and show off Jose Callejon a bit more. Lad's in super form.

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    Roger Bennett: Joe Hart's delivery has been super dodgy last couple of games. if ever a keeper needed a confident booster ahead of a big game...

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    [Comment from Grace]
    So Reals main interest in today's game is probably to hype up Ronaldo for Ballon D'or, right???

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    James Tyler: He's a great central mid. Not a holder, not an attacker. The classic box-to-box variety.

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    [Comment from Jon]
    Gundogan is one of Dortmund's best players but not particularly well known outside of the "FM nerd" circle (of which I am a proud member).

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    [Comment from Rahul Oak]
    Looks like we might see a Chelsea manager change sooner than getting a goal here.

  •  

    James Tyler: Again, small piece of the puzzling jigsaw.

  •  

    [Comment from Kartavya]
    The problem is Dzeko. He is so good with his sub appearance that you can't help play him and when you start him he is just nowhere.

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    James Tyler: 0-0 at the moment. Scoreless across Europe, even.

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    [Comment from Kartavya]
    I am a City fan and Yaya has been our worst player in the Champions League. I actually like the fact that he is suspended, lets see how it pans out.

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    [Comment from Mike]
    How about paying attention to Anderlecht/Malaga. Two yanks. Ander hoping for a Europa Birth.

  •  

    James Tyler: He's a useful player indeed. Dortmund's unfairly loaded. But not in the "players everyone knows" sense. More for the FM nerds.

  •  

    [Comment from Joe]
    Dortmund's got so many little gems buried in their roster - Perisic is real quality, remember that goal against Arsenal last year?

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    Roger Bennett: Bohboh. City's problems revolve around Mancini and his ability to truly develop a system that suits his players. he still does not seem to know his starting eleven. He does not know who he trusts bar Yaya and Aguero. the erratic purchases -- and they were ERRATIC -- are symptoms

  •  

    [Comment from Andrew D.]
    Ball in the net in Madrid but Benzema's toe poke is ruled out for offside.

  •  

    James Tyler: Offside flag against City. Game resembles a jam band going through warm-ups and equipment testing.

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    James Tyler: 10%. Think the decline/fatigue in David Silva's mercurial legs is a major factor. That and there are so many strikers not scoring consistently.

  •  

    [Comment from Bohboh]
    how much of Man City's troubles can be attributed to their somewhat strange summer transfers. For example, Sinclair, Rodwell, Richard Wright

  •  

    James Tyler: Borussia settling into a dull rumble of possession. Long ball from Weidenfeller is overhit. Maicon taxis one down the right flank as City tries to assert itself.

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    James Tyler: So far Gaz Barry's trying to be the Yaya Toure on the ball. Spraying possession around without much success. Granted, we've played exactly four minutes.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Watching City try and cope without Yaya is going to be very, very interesting...

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    James Tyler: Form is illusive. That's the big thing to remember. No. 1 invariably falters some time. Can't be the best forever unless you're the Spanish national team.

  •  

    [Comment from Jace]
    Note much to talk about in terms of teams advancing today, what should we pay attention to? Which matches matter for advancing?

  •  

    [Comment from Casey]
    Couldn't you argue all the leagues are "declining?" Look at how many clubs are in "crisis": Chelsea, Man City, PSG, Arsenal, Valencia, etc ... (sorry about the overuse of quotes)

  •  

    James Tyler: Cut-paste, cut-paste, cut-paste.

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    [Comment from geoff]
    gervinho fires wide early in greece

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    James Tyler: Moritz Leitner meets Gaz Barry for the game's first foul.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Great question right now. economically united is world number one... but in terms of playing quality week to week, it is hard to name an English team who are fully clicking any better than the Tampa Bay Mutiny

  •  

    [Comment from Jay Jay Okocha]
    Where does the top EPL team rank in terms of world powers? Top 10?

  •  

    James Tyler: Yeah, and Ancelotti hasn't figured out how to use all his new toys. Pastore's labored to settle in Ligue 1 as it's not a league that affords much time on the ball. Just all looks out of sync.

  •  

    [Comment from Steve]
    What's up with PSG? As a fan of OM, I'm delighted to see them struggle. But it doesn't really add up. Too many egos?

  •  

    James Tyler: Anyway, missed the first corner for City. Wasn't up to snuff.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: The font on the back of Dortmunds jerseys is... complete that sentence

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    James Tyler: I think the Prem is just fine, honestly. So easy to look at one season and determine a trend. Wasn't long ago that three of four Prem teams would make the CL semis. I'd say that FFP and some teams in unusual flux -- Chelsea's managerial hell, Arsenal's self-destructive austerity, United and Fergie approaching the end of an era -- has made an impact. That said, I don't expect it to last forever.

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    [Comment from Jared]
    James could you please address Messi's comment regarding the stature of the prem league in world football today? Though it is fickle to banter about what league is best, I would appreciate your opinion on the subject considering so many ppl see the prem as declining

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    James Tyler: We're off at Signal Iduna Park!

  •  

    [Comment from Matt K]
    I hope City gets knocked out in horrendous fashion. And first of all Tyler, Man City got way too lucky in the first leg to have gotten a point from missed empty nets by lewandowksi.

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    James Tyler: PORTO v. PSG: Helton -- Danilo, Otamendi, Mangala, Sandro -- Fernando -- Gonzalez, Moutinho -- Rodriguez, Martinez, Varela.

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    Roger Bennett: Vincent Kompany has one of the squarest heads in football. It is perfect.

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    James Tyler: PSG v. Porto: Sirigu -- van der Wiel, Alex, Thiago Silva, Maxwell -- Chantome, Matuidi, Pastore -- Menez, Ibrahimovic, Lavezzi.

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    James Tyler: Wondering if Edin Dzeko can prove he's not a five-minute man for the end of games...

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    James Tyler: BORUSSIA DORTMUND: 1-Weidenfeller; 21-Kirch, 15-Hummels, 27-Santana, 29-Schmelzer; 19-Grosskreutz, 8-Gundogan, 7-Leitner; 11-Reus, 23-Schieber, 44-Perisic.

    MAN CITY: 1-Hart; 3-Maicon, 4-Kompany, 6-Lescott, 33-Nastasic; 18-Barry, 14-Javi Garcia; 8-Nasri, 32-Tevez, 11-Sinclair; 10-Dzeko.

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    James Tyler: XIs again...

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    James Tyler: I think it's just a mindset that Mancini and City can't grasp. Europe isn't a place to play with complacency. City feels it should crush the continent under its boot like a bug. Doesn't work like that. Looked sloppy and lazy against Ajax in both games.

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    [Comment from messi ballon four]
    Any thoughts on why Man City play so poorly in the UCL while they win the EPL. I have a feeling it has something to do with the EPL's decline as the #1 league in the world. I am not sure if the EPL even comes in 3rd in top leagues in the world. any thougts?

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    James Tyler: They're a production line of artfully brilliant footy playing T1000s.

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    James Tyler: I think they'll be able to retain a lot of it. Barely batted an eye at losing Shinji Kagawa as they had Gundogan and Grosskreutz ready to step through.

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    Roger Bennett: But there will be more...

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    Roger Bennett: poached 100%

  •  

    [Comment from Marc from WV]
    With all their young talent, is BvB set to become a dominant squad in Europe over the next few years (obviously they have been so domestically)? Or will the top talent get poached?

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    James Tyler: Seems like a fairly strong XI to me, Julian. Gareth Barry's playing!

  •  

    Roger Bennett: As background, David Conn's excellent piece on how the Bundesliga balances money making and fan representation
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/dec/02/ermany-bundesliga-noisy-fans

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    [Comment from Julian Hirsch]
    I don't believe that manchester city will care about the europa league they will see it as a minor prize and I believe they will not field their strongest teams and will crash out.

  •  

    James Tyler: So perhaps Man City will make a nice whipping boy after Saturday's subdued 1-1 draw at the Allianz.

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    James Tyler: Though they'll be unhappy that the Bundesliga race already seems doomed given Bayern's impossibly, supermodel-hot run to open the season.

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    Roger Bennett: Let's celebrate Dortmund though this afternoon. There rise is good for the world's game. Four years ago, the bloated bank accounts of English teams appeared to permit them to bludgeon their way into elimination rounds by right.

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    James Tyler: Aye, Geoff. And Spartak is in disarray. Good Jonathan Wilson piece in the Guardian this morning about their decline. Worth a read (but after the Boot Room, of course).

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    [Comment from geoff]
    i'll tell you what, i'm excited for celtic spartak tomorrow at parkhead. should be rocking.

  •  

    James Tyler: Happy memories, after all.

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    James Tyler: Good point, Rog. I think we'll be able to tell if Carlos Tevez refuses to start the game.

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    James Tyler: I think it's hilarious that Man City doesn't have enough left backs considering the investment, Jon.

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    Roger Bennett: and will we know the difference JT? How can we tell?

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    [Comment from Jon]
    JT: What do you think about Nastasic as a LB? I'm not familiar with him having played that position. Seems Lescott would work better there given his history.

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    James Tyler: Afternoon, Rog! The air is heavy with schadenfreude, for sure. But will City's performance be one of bravery and resilience or "who cares"?

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    James Tyler: I'm happy that Roy got his career back together after it fell off a cliff, he struggled with alcohol abuse, etc. Greece ain't a bad place to land.

  •  

    Roger Bennett: Good Afternoon JT... and all those watching/rubbernecking at City's game/demise

  •  

    [Comment from Doug]
    Holy schneikes! A Roy Carroll sighting!? United fans shudder at the thought...

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    James Tyler: Marc's got it.

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    [Comment from Marc from WV]
    I don't care how meaningless the games are, I'm still using this as an excuse not to work.

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    James Tyler: BTW, send me your email address again, Pogster.

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    James Tyler: Well then!

  •  

    [Comment from Pog]
    Tiny footnote about Ajax: Fulham sold Danny Hoesen to them for next to nothing over the summer, having decided he wasn't going anywhere in their system. He had a goal last week, and gets another start today.

  •  

    James Tyler: ARSENAL v. Olympiakos -- Szczesny -- Jenkinson, Squillaci, Vermaelen, Meade -- Coquelin, Rosicky, Ramsey -- Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chamakh, Gervinho.

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    [Comment from PCarrESPN via Twitter]
    @LeanderOnFOX @kylejmccarthy Not fair to put the tall guy closer to the camera!

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    James Tyler: OLYMPIAKOS v. Arsenal: Roy Carroll -- Diakite, Manolas, Contreras, Torossidis -- Machado, Maniatis, Fejsa -- Greco, Abdoun -- Djebbour.

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    James Tyler: I'm sure he's happy and not at all sad to have left Arsenal for a team that did win a title not so long ago, minor as his part was in all of it.

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    [Comment from Titi]
    Flamini, he is still around? What is what he's gotten for leaving Arsenal

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    [Comment from Tanto]
    My meaningless and parlayed predictions: Dynamo/Dinamo – 2-2 Draw, PSG/Porto – 1-1 Draw, Montpellier/Schalke – Schalke 2-1, Olympiakos/Arsenal – Arsenal 1-0, Milan/Zenit – Milan 1-0, Malaga/Anderlecht – Malaga 3-1, Real Madrid/Ajax, Real 4-3, Dortmund/Man City, Dortmund 2-0

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    James Tyler: Some lower-level tussles for group winner, perhaps. Man City can clinch a hallowed Europa League spot if it wins and Ajax loses in Spain. So there's that. (clutches at straws)

  •  

    [Comment from Jay Jay Okocha]
    I have no idea which game to watch. Do any of these games mean something?

  •  

    James Tyler: I think Kieran Gibbs has already made Santos expandable, The Stig. But Meade will be another precocious lad, for certain.

  •  

    [Comment from The Stig]
    I haven't seen much of him, but that kid Jernade Meade looks like a future contender for that revolving door Arsenal currently have at left back. Could he possibly make Santos expendible?

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    James Tyler: ZENIT v. Milan: Malafeev -- Anyukov, Alves, Lombaerts, Hubocan -- Witsel, Denisov, Shirokov -- Semak, Hulk, Danny.

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    James Tyler: MILAN v. Zenit: Abbiati - De Sciglio, Zapata, Acerbi, Mesbah -- Flamini, Ambrosini, Emanuelson -- Bojan -- Pazzini, Boateng.

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    James Tyler: AJAX vs. Real Madrid: Vermeer -- Van Rhijn, Alderweireld, Moisander, Blind -- S. de Jong, Poulsen, Eriksen -- Boerrigter, Hoesen, Fischer.

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    James Tyler: REAL MADRID vs. Ajax: Adan -- Nacho, Carvalho, Varane, Fabio Coentrao -- Khedira, Modric -- Callejon, Kaka, Ronaldo -- Benzema

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    James Tyler: I'll also go around the games with squad news galore.

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    James Tyler: BORUSSIA DORTMUND: 1-Weidenfeller; 21-Kirch, 15-Hummels, 27-Santana, 29-Schmelzer; 19-Grosskreutz, 8-Gundogan, 7-Leitner; 11-Reus, 23-Schieber, 44-Perisic.
    Subs: 16-Blaszczykowski, 20-Langerak, 26-Piszczek, 9-Lewandowski, 32-Bittencourt, 28-Amini, 30-Gunter.

    MAN CITY: 1-Hart; 3-Maicon, 4-Kompany, 6-Lescott, 33-Nastasic; 18-Barry, 14-Javi Garcia; 8-Nasri, 32-Tevez, 11-Sinclair; 10-Dzeko.
    Subs: 70-Evans, 56-Mepp-Browne, 43-Nimely, 30-Pantilimon, 45-Balotelli, 16-Aguero, 5-Zabaleta.

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    James Tyler: Nicely done. Lineups, shall we?

  •  

    [Comment from Christian]
    When I read Dortmund's lineup and thought to myself "No Bender", I immediately imagined myself as Fry, working for Planet Express (it's my red hair that did it)

  •  

    James Tyler: Now if we still had the single-elimination set-up, mind you....

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    James Tyler: Probably? Let's face it, Pat: with six games in the group, some will turn out to be meaningless.

  •  

    James Tyler: It's never wrong, Jim.

  •  

    [Comment from pat]
    has there ever been a final grp stage day as meaningless as today?

  •  

    [Comment from Jim from Reno]
    JT, is it wrong that I hope Chelsea loses today?

  •  

    James Tyler: And, will Man City heroically pluck a Europa League place out of thin air? The mighty underdogs of the Etihad. Well, then.

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    James Tyler: Bit of a duff day in European action today, but we'll soldier on. Of note: will Arsenal's kids (plus Squillaci and Chamakh, two rare birds indeed) win vs. Olympiakos?

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    James Tyler: THE CHAAAMPIONS

 
COMPLETE TEAM CLOSE X
Goal Shot Video
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  • Shots (on goal)

  • tackles

  • Fouls

  • possession

  • Borussia Dortmund

  • 15(7)

  • 25

  • 7

  • 48%

    52%

  • Manchester City

  • 6(4)

  • 13

  • 10

Match Stats

  • Borussia Dortmund
  • Manchester City
15(7) Shots (on goal) 6(4)
7 Fouls 10
3 Corner kicks 7
2 Offsides 8
48% Time of Possession 52%
0 Yellow Cards 3
0 Red Cards 0
4 Saves 6